QW2- ubi Vs zK

Azeroth's Last Kings Vs ubiTeam

Date: Sunday 23 November 2008 12:00 PM Eastern

Place: GGC Headhunters League Room

Administrator Present: NGGL]Dredrick NGGL]Dreamer

Azeroth's Last Kings [zK]
zK.Bren <---- Starter
zK.tvface
zK.iLLmatiic
zK.Rep


ubiTeam [ubi]
ubi.eRazz <---- Starter
ubi.TrqR
ubi.S.W.X.
ubi.Intosh



Results:
zK.raj [0-1] ubi.eRaZz
Map: Twisted Meadow
zk.tvface [0-2] ubi.eRaZz
Map: Turtle Rock
zK.raj [0-3] ubi.eRaZz
Map: Terenas Stand
iLLmatiic [0-4] ubi.Intosh
Map: Secret Valley


Azeroth's Last Kings [0:4] ubiTeam

Notes:
- ubi Jokers in ubi.Intosh for ubi.eRaZz
- zK jokers zK.raj for zK.Rep

zK.raj[0-1] ubi.eRaZz
TM
zk.tvface[0-2] ubi.eRaZz
TR
zK.raj[0-3] ubi.eRaZz
TS
iLLmatiic [0-4] ubi.intosh (Subcard : ubi.eRazz)
SV

ubi [4-0] zK

races please

i got the races but dred still needs to contact me...

First of all I wasn't present for the war, else I would have clarified the matter sooner. Bren is Raj, he just changed his name. The roster doesn't accurately reflect this, however, so according to the rules this IS a violation of NGGL policy, however it does NOT specify the penalty for such action. The reason for this, is Bren's updated GGC tag, but our failure to update the roster accordingly. Once again, it is still the same player.

Also please observe that the player for whom the sub card of UBI was used was on the lineup. It was my understanding that eRaZz forfeited his match vs iLLmatiic, and UBI simply selected their next player. I am of the opinion that the war should be [4-1] UBI victory, with penalty points to UBI for forfeit and penalty points to zK for incorrect name.

Thank you,
-Dredrick

I know personally that Bren = Raj, so no need to get complicated. If anyone has a problem with this, they can contact me personally, because I know this was a simple mix up.

NGGL]Crayola wrote:

I know personally that Bren = Raj, so no need to get complicated. If anyone has a problem with this, they can contact me personally, because I know this was a simple mix up.

alright but we need a proof of a chat log or someting to prove ig.ern did ff that match because we have to go with the first source we get, which is ig.ern's since they posted the results and dred's urs is 2nd source and if u can get us a proof that will overwrite the 1st source w/ that so jus get me a log =D

Another thing you can do is chage ubi a joker card for that...
Since they have jokers avaliable it's un-necessary to declare it a FF without proof...
(ubi jokers out ubi.eRazz for ubi.intosh)

dN.eS.Zephyr wrote:

Another thing you can do is chage ubi a joker card for that...
Since they have jokers avaliable it's un-necessary to declare it a FF without proof...
(ubi jokers out ubi.eRazz for ubi.intosh)

sub is the more right term for that since joker "revives" a player that has been eliminated

I'll see what I can get in terms of chat logs, but I'm not sure which card would allow a player on the lineup to step in for the current player, and just defer that player to later.

Dred - it's a joker.
A sub is taking someone who is currently out of the lineup and putting them into the lineup.
I've seen teams joker players out before...

Btw: zK charged a joker; raj played 2x.

I just got news that the final map (Secret Valley) was chosen by UBI. That means that it was assumed zK won the previous game, via a forfeit of the match. had they carded, we would have had the map pick.

If you still need the logs and have replays, there's a program called WC3RI. Checks apm and other random things like chat between the people actually playing. If Google fails you let me know I can upload it.

It was outside the game. Look, if they intended to joker, the map would have been our pick. It wasn't.

T.T well I guess the only thing we can do is ask sYs for clarification...

The only people from our team that would have chat logs would be bren, tvface, furnace, or mortarteam and i'll ask them tonight if they happen to have saved them. I was gone until about an hour after the match had started and when I arrived I was told ubi had already ff their first player after leading 3-0 because he had to leave. I vetoed a map and their next player picked sv and the game was started. I do not know the details of their player leaving or the chat involved as I wasn't there at the time. I'm not sure what ubi will say as they didn't seem the most mannered team in the world...